Also, your heir will very often be past childbearing age by the time they take the throne which, combined with the fertility debuff for unlanded characters is recipe for trouble and at best costs you the genius traits in many generations. By choosing to reform your pagan religion, you will lose all the old advantages such as attrition for enemies and subjugation wars, but gain all the bonuses of a civilized nation. While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. Defining features in-game: Low-tech non-pagans have very low Supply Limit in Pagan counties. No penalty for female rulers. Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. Holy sites: Nishapur, Bost, Cairo, Kabul, and Multan. Aztec Pyramid construction. Hinduism is solid with the early Holy Order, morale buff, patron deities and raiding but they lack any inheritance/realm management perks. If gender flexibility is desired, Ancestor Veneration can be chosen for Eldership succession. The religious head can decide upon death to. its the left over generic pagan religion that isnt used anymore since old gods actually separated it into different pagan religions #12 And isn't Civilized like a dream? Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods.. Pagan non-nomads normally requires the Old Gods or Holy Fury DLC to be playable. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Equality allows the player to not only land females, but also to get even higher scores since female dynasts could have consorts, who as concubines provides prestige. Although I admit the bloodline bugs with male consorts are beyond annoying. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. This allows other pagans (especially Tengri and Germanic pagans) to fairly easily invade other pagans with conquest and subjugation casus belli. So if you like seeing dukes in the middle of other kingdoms take distant kingdoms and break out of their vassal king resulting in non stop dejure wars and infighting, then sure prepared invasions are for you (masochist). It was the first game where I gave any titles to my family. I like Buddhism because the combination of concubinage and heir-nomination means you can end up with an unbroken line of Strong Genius rulers if you play the genetics game well, but unfortunately they're lousy at expansion. I wish it was more interactive (e.g. Male pagan rulers may take up to three concubines in addition to a wife (except for Hellenic pagans who cannot have multiple spouses or concubines unless the polygamy doctrine is chosen when reforming). Each temple looted in a raid gives +1% to moral authority. The Orthodox Pentarchy is also fun. Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. Ancestor Worship. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. that's why those two are different Branches of Christianity, there's big enough difference on some of the theological matters. Alternatively, feudal kings and emperors can enact the "Full Council Authority" law and adopt feudal elective succession. It is important to quickly convert vassals who still follow the old faith due to the large opinion penalty. Generic Pagan rulers cannot be created with Ruler Designer but there are few events in game which spawn Pagan courtiers to game, which permit granting of titles or education of children. The first thing you will choose is one Nature. (Especially after mass conversions.). If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. When I ran a Muslim realm with a capital in Marrekech, and put 1 castle, 1 city, and 5 mosques there, I felt like I was the most powerful guy in the world. For the reference https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation, Nature: Two tiers here. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. However, it only applies to the homeland, and pagans have difficulty converting provinces due to low. Having young concubines (below the age of 45) gives a monthly prestige gain, which is especially useful for tribal and nomadic pagans. When the religion is reformed, rulers of the faith may choose to accept or reject the new order of things. Interesting read. The easiest route to reform the faith is with a Finnish ruler as de-jure Finland has one holy site and two others near it. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Ive heard it is currently bugged. The selection of Leadership style determines the type of religious head. As I said in OP, if you are Roman Emperor you cannot designate heir for your top tittle. What, in your opinion, is the best photograph? To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug) such that the religious head can never be venerated. Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. Right now before I will be able to even convert rest of my provinces, they already do it.*. As I said, civilized isnt good for Roman emperor as he is locked into imperial elective, and lets be honest, if we are reforming hellenic religion then we are 99% roman emperor, Problem, realize that I'm a couple months late, but stability is a doctrine, not a nature, sorry, that's bugging me, "I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty.". Women can take up to 3 consorts. Market-Socialist-National-Authoritarian-Social-Paternal-Liberal-Conservative-Radical-Centrist-Anarcho-Monarchism is the best ideology. For Power, Divine Marriage is average. +10% Attack for all units. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. Is it really cheesy/gamey though? AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Duke-tier religious head common for all realms. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. You are using an out of date browser. Women can take up to 3 consorts. I find one of the most boring parts of Pagan games is that theres no other friendly or same religion nations, pagan games often end up just being your country vs the world in holy wars. Also offsets short reign. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I always found piety to be very uselful here, excommunication is a very powerful tool if you use it strategically. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Holy sites: Novgorod (shared with Suomenusko), Kiev, Plock, Birlad, and Rugen (shared with Romuva). The Zunists are unique in that they are somewhat of a hybrid of the Offensive and Defensive; generic Paganism grants no bonuses. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. Crusader Kings 2 ; Best Pagan mods for CK2 Best Pagan mods for CK2. The strongest position for the faith is at the 867 bookmark, where the Tibetan Empire has fractured and Bn kings of Guge & -Tsang hold large areas of the Tibetan plateau under their control. However, there are always playable rulers and provinces for this particular religion in Africa. using concubines). Its full potential is available when we are huge feudal empire and rely more on our vassal levies. Please help with verifying or updating older sections of this article.At least some were last verified for version 3.0. Havent seen many posts about reforming the Bon religion. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. Hierocratic and Autocephalous is a good way when we don't want to bother much with religious head but want to have high MA. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. The only realm following this faith is the Zunbil Satrapy in western Afghanistan. However, it is good when you expanded before reformation, and want to settle down and rely more on our vassals and domain rather than stats of our ruler. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). +40% garrison size at county of this religion. You have the pentarchy system, a patriarch if you are king tier or higher, no pope who steals your money, no overpowered crusades and the like etc. But, aside from Germanic/Zun, they are identical, except for slightly different flavor text and Slavic "Jarilo" event. The below table contains all 53 religions from Crusader Kings II, along with all religion IDs, for use in console commands such as religion. Unyielding is a must for small Pagan surrounded by powerful Abrahamic realms. I have received few private messages and some even answered to the thread when the post was very old. Need the +3 demense to have enough personal levies and also +15 opinion combined with Augustus trait and Born in the Purple ( another +15 opinion) is pretty OP. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority +40% garrison size in county of this religion. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (eg Hellenic). No female temple holders. Reformer becomes the first religious head, PDXCON All holders of holdings do not have to be Muslim for this tax to apply the top ruler being it is enghout. It requires either control of three holy sites and 50% moral authority, or control of all five holy sites. What options do you think is best for each, norse, slavic, tengri, etc? The principal ability of defensive pagans (Romuva, Slavic, Suomenusko & African) is a tremendous boost in combat when fighting on home ground. Playing from this start is more difficult, as Kiev is bordered to the south by the Tengri Khaganate of Magyars. Concubines not allowed. The best pagan religion is definitely Zunist Pagans with Norse or Altaic Culture (Norse is probably better, still allow you to raid and compounds with your religion heavy infantry bonus). Cannot create Warrior Lodge if it does not already exist. It got to the point where I was raiding not based on gold or number of holdings or artifacts or anything like that, but simply based on the size of the ruler's court; I figured it would give me more chances to capture folks for the sacrifices. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Synergies, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/holy-fury-reformation-doctrine-list.1115209/. Btw, is there any reason NOT to take unyelding? Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. Due to the Germanic faith's long and combative relationship with Catholic western Europe, there are a number of unique events between them. Also for flavour. Intermarry Buddhist, Zoroastrian group. GHWs are especially useful for Germanic Fylkirs, who can select the target and timing of the attack. If allowed to spread their religion, they will in time ask the ruler to convert. For feudal pagans, reforming makes it possible to raise crown authority to any level. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. Full status of woman law is enforced. Followers 0. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. This means you may invade territory held by another faith, but still gain the defensive bonus so long as the battle takes place upon land of your faith. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Norse: Cultural one, then either agnatic, stability or blood sacrifices, depending on playstyle. (AI rulers are likely to accept the reformed religion if cynical, same dynasty as the reformer, or under control of a reformed ruler.) Late to the party but I like this one; for the purpose of acquiring bloodlines. Germanic pagans do especially well since they get free ships, can navigate rivers, and are close to prime raiding targets. +10% Attack for all units. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. Finding one of the few Hellenic characters, and having them educate your child or granting them a title: This page was last edited on 16 August 2022, at 07:19. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. It's not something that occurs at the press of a button, but with a little effort, you can make even the most stalwart pagan take a knee to your faith. Recommended Posts. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. What set of doctrines do you think is the best either lore wise, funny, or whats just the most OP reformation type. actually that "pagan" religion in game is just the generic pagan religion that all pagans had before the "old gods" expansion. Can't agree with stability doctrine, tech and artifacts lower short reign penalty so it is not worth to take it, and as I said from my experience it is easy to overcome. Intermarry Eastern group, Zoroastrian group. You trade some of your offensive/defensive capability for stability, faster conversion, and Great Holy Wars to combat Crusades and Jihads. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. Doesnt block us from raiding, hunting focus etc. Because of this, it is usually strategically advisable to hold off on reforming your religion until your realm is at a multiple-kingdom level, and to make sure to exploit any subjugation or county conquest CBs against nearby easy target pagans before reforming your religion. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). The devs deliberately made it so that certain societies will let you remain a member even if you are the "wrong" religion. Bear in mind that in 1066, Novgorod is Christian, and the Rurikid dynasty which holds it has multiple potential allies from other dynasty members. Hi, before Holy Fury release I posted my tier list for pagan doctrines, https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9sfvtr/my_holy_fury_reformation_doctrine_tier_list/. Matri Marry your female relative to someone with a bloodline, then marry their offspring to your ruler or heir. In game terms, all pagan religions fall into one of two broad groups, with a few exceptions - the offensively-oriented Germanic, Hellenic (Greco-Roman), Tengri and Aztec faiths, and the defensively-oriented Romuva (Baltic), Slavic, Suomenusko (Finnish), African, and Bn (Tibetan) faiths. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? D. Nature: If you picked peaceful nature, I suggest you pick Autonomous leadership(since Peaceful doctrine anyway disables GHW). It gets pretty boring tbh. In the north, start in Novgorod, Poland, or Kiev and form your corresponding de jure kingdom first, then work your way to the other two holy sites. Ilmen is also surrounded primarily by weak Suomenusko and Romuva pagans and is shielded by an ocean from the Norse until the Viking Age event triggers, giving plenty of time to solidify power. Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Zun can also be reformed like other pagan faiths. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. ( But Imperial Succession is nearly same as heir designation so you may want to pick the Religious tax doctrine to get tons of cash. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Is AV and Temporal actually working in conjunction for you or you just marrying into the saints' lines? Orthodox. The only cb you'll ever need is alexanders invasion. If that was the case, simply raising levies, toggling looter and waiting will remove the prestige penalty. They also gain access to Great Holy Wars if the Catholics have unlocked Crusades or the Muslims have unlocked Jihads. The religion now has a formal head, who gives the faith a permanent +20% to moral authority, and who may, after the Crusades and Jihads are unlocked, call Great Holy Wars. I usually take unyielding but in the future I think I'll go with Proselytizing. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Also Hellenic religion lacks concubines. I think Polygamy would be powerful. Rurik Rurikid, Petty King of Holmgarr in 867, is the historical founder of the Russian Empire. Both my character and Christianity are based. It basically removes any fear of a succession crisis ever again, and Enatic gets the slight edge by basically giving you a free subjugation/crusade option on pretty much any leader in the game due to the rarity of female rulers in general. Clearly Messalian. However, invaders can negate the attrition by quickly building a fort in each province they enter, or by having Military Organization 4 in their capital. [1] These are not immediately obvious before reformation, or even immediately upon reformation. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Seabound is just useless without Daring and picking these two doctrines is silly (unless we are not getting bored with constant raiding on our foes). However, the Sons of Abraham demon child event chain will create Zunist "witches", who can be married matrilineally or assigned as guardians to children with the Faith or Heritage focus. +5% Morale of armies. Independent lieges of this religion can construct pyramids. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. But later, feudal realms grow their income more quickly, while raiding becomes less feasible as targets consolidate. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. Here is an extensive CK2 guide about Pagan Reformation, where we explain all Natures, Doctrines, and Leadership options. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. I will explain at the end of paragraph. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding.Hunting focus is unavailable.Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but county conquest CB is available.Dueling comes with a Piety cost.Cannot create warrior lodge if it does not already exist.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. In fact I was really surprised they didn't do anything with Manichaeanism in HL. Also has access to the decadence mechanic which can also increase demesne income with tribal or iqta governments. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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